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01 Cover
02 MSI
03 Table of Contents | March-April 2023
04 Quantra
05 Spall
06 Advertising Index | March-April 2023
07 Cosentino | Pietra Kode by Dekton
08 News Highlights 1 | Prodim
09 News Highlights 2
10 2022 U.S. Hard-Surface Imports | Water Treatment Solutions
11 imports 3
12 2022 U.S. Hard-Surface Imports | Data 1
13 2022 U.S. Hard-Surface Imports | Data 2
14 Coverings 2023
15 Fabricator Focus | Hard-Surface Report
16 Fabricator Focus - Frank's Marble & Granite
17 BB Industries | SRG Preview March-April 2023
18 Pinnacles 2022 | Radio Stone Update
19 Pinnacles 2022 | 1
20 Pinnacles 2022 | Kitchen/Bath
21 Pinnacles 2022 | Residential Single Family
22 Pinnacles 2022 | Landcapes
23 Pinnacles 2022 | Commercial Interior/Exterior
24 Pinnacles 2022 | Restoration / Renovation
25 Pinnacles 2022 | Architectural
26 2023 Industry Recognition Awards
27 Natural Stone Institute | Awards-Honors
28 The Message | NSI Gets You Recognized
29 Xiamen Show
30 Arpi on Tile
31 Adventures in The Trade
32 Marmomac 2023
33 10 Questions - Anthony Geraci, Geraci Stone Gallery
34 SFA Membershp
35 SFA Intro | March-April 2023
36 SFA 1 | What's Your Waste Factor?
37 SFA 2 | Women in the Shop
38 SFA 3 | Invisible Induction Cooktops
39 ProductPLUS - Water Treatment Solutions
40 ProductTalk | March-April 2023
41 Agenda | March-April 2023
42 Workshelf | March-April 2023
43 Subscriptions
44 The Directory | March-April 2023
45 Contact Info

SFA: What's the Answer?

Invisible Induction Cooktops

Creative SurfacesWA

We had a customer ask about the invisible induction cooktops. Has anyone done a job with one? I'm searching for specs.

Dave.Scott Premium Member

From what I understand they prefer to be used with 12mm porcelain, cannot be used at all with any quartz, and granite needs to be back milled down to 1.5 cm thick for the unit to work properly. David Scott At large, Warrenton, Ore. "What we leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, what is woven into the lives of others" – Pericles

CreativeSurfacesWA

Thanks Dave, from what i've been reading it looks like Dekton® is the best for these cooktops too. We just aren't too familiar with them yet.

crobb Premium Member

We also have a client interested in one right now. We contacted them (the manufacturer) but they are requiring us to buy a single unit for our showroom before we can become a vendor. They would not give any specifics before we were a dealer. Their website is a bit out of date. Not loving that they are hard to communicate with this early in the sales process, once we sell their product we'll be in the middle for tech/customer support. Elegante Surfaces Newnan, Ga.

gssfabrication Premium Member

I am trying to remember who asked about undercounter induction cooktops a few years ago. It is mostly a novelty. If it were the cat’s meow; appliance manufacturers would all be selling them. There is a reason they are not. If it is ease of cleanup they want; just have them look at a flush-mount cooktop. There are a number of smaller versions that are just 1-2 burners that can sit flush too. None of the brands I can recall off the top of my head; I have seen them in some literature for dwellings in Europe/Asia. I have never thought to myself, "I really wish I could just put a pan right HERE and cook right on my counter!" They will not give you info until you become a "dealer?" Forcing you to buy their product instead of giving you fabrication or specific information? Hard pass on that one. Go find another sucker. Rick Graff GSS Fabrication Inc. Richland, Wash. estimating@gssfabrication.com 509-375-1960.

SpauldingJR Premium Member

We are a dealer for the Invisicook in our area. I'm not sure if that is the brand you are referring to, but I bet it is. We have done a few jobs with them and too started selling them because a customer requested a bid on it. We have done I think 3 so far and have all went pretty well. Easy for us anyways. Hardest part is making sure they plan for electrical before it gets too late for the multi burner units because I think they require 220V. As Dave said they recommend 12mm porcelain. The customers who have them now all haven't had any issues besides one that I know of. Invisicook recommends using these pads that sit on the countertop while cooking, I don't think the customer was using them. The issue was not with us though and Invisicook handled the complaint. Josh Rubink, CPA Spaulding Stone Moorhead, MN

crobb Premium Member

Did they make you buy a unit for your showroom before you could be a dealer? Any chance you could email me any of the specs on the units? I have a client driving me nuts for one in their quartz tops. We love doing different things but I always want to make sure it is done right so it lasts and we partner with companies that stand behind their products.

Dave.Scott Premium Member

Some unit manufacturers specify against them being used in quartz..

SpauldingJR Premium Member

Yes, they did make us buy one during the process of becoming a dealer. We happen to be updating our showroom and will be able to put it to use in the showroom. Invisicook doesn't recommend using it with quartz. It would ruin the countertop over time with the heat. Natural Stone or Porcelain. I'm not sure what specs you are looking for, but they have a bunch on their website.

Coop Premium Member

How can the repeated heat of a pan not fry the resin that's present in most natural stones?.

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